Let's talk about Victor Salva

The movie started out with a cute blond boy being abducted by the Creeper.

Then it moved on to a bus full of teen aged jocks. Half of them shirtless and tanning on top of a bus. The other half of them pissing next to each other in a field.

Then the Creeper scopes out the jocks and "chooses" his favorite. He then proceeds to lick the window, as if he's licking the guy he chose.

Salva was indeed a creep.

I had a huge crush on Al Santos in JC2.

OP, your anti-MAP bias has no place in 2022!

Interestingly, the little blond kid who played "Billy" in the movie, ended up being trans.

Identifies as He/She/They.

And the lead jock "Scotty" (Eric Nenninger) who accused the black coach of reverse racism against white guys, is actually married to a black girl named Angel Parker.

Izzy grew into a hot daddy.

The guy at R6 reminds me of Kirk Cameron.

When I was young I really wanted to see Powder, but my mom wouldn't let me because of Victor Salva's reputation. I didn't really understand at the time, because Powder was pretty tame.

I had no idea that Nicki Aycox (Minxie) was Ruby from Supernatural!

R8, you could definitely see glimpses of Salva's creepiness in the movie Powder.

He really liked sexualizing young guys.

What in the hell are they doing here, any way?

This one reviewer completely EVISCERATES Victor Salva and the movie.

He is a creep but it was refreshing to see males sexualized for once instead of naked teenage chicks taking showers like 99.99999999% of horror movies. There was nothing "gay porn" about the franchise at all.

Speaking of the movie Powder, Sean Patrick Flanery is so hot.

He looked creepy in the movie, but in real life he's quite handsome.

Sean also has a banging body for a 57 year old.

Glad we got to see him nude!

It's funny how Rose McGowan spent so much time " calling out" everyone from Meryl Streep to Alyssa Milano to her former manager ( who committed suicide after McGowan publicly trashed her). And yet when she was asked about working with Salva she answered that it was none of her business. So many of these self righteous " advocacy" types don't really advocate for anyone but themselves.

Even I think Rose is a cunt.

Did Justin Long have to put out for Salva?

It doesn’t make any sense that he molested a 12-year-old boy and only got 3 years and was released after 18 months.

Even though I'm the MeToo & RoseArmy vanguard, I was in a movie directed by him, & just look the other way whenever talk about his past comes up.

[quote] Then the Creeper scopes out the jocks and "chooses" his favorite. He then proceeds to lick the window, as if he's licking the guy he chose.

If the victims were female would it still be a problem for you?

This was one of my favorite movies, it was hot to see the role reversal in horror and had decent characters. Then again, I was 15. I've read the article's about the guy, and its really impossible to distance anything created by someone who molested a 12 y/o kid while in the authority position as director. This was pre-90's-00's sex-offender registry so his time was within guidelines, but touching a kid as an adult is a deal breaker. There was no ambiguity in the case either, it was pretty much he video taped himself with the kid and they found a stash of mags in pics. He slipped just pre-internet, otherwise he'd never have made a pseudo-comeback.

Yeah I think that's the worst thing about him, r23. Not making a movie with a ton of shirtless 25 year old men playing 18 year olds. The people disgusted by the gay shit in Jeepers Creepers 2 are obvious homophobes. Haven't seen powder so I can't comment.

[quote] I had a huge crush on Al Santos in JC2.

Is Santos white?

R24

His reputation is a shame, because both of them were ahead of their time. Powder had that usual Disney slickness to it, so I don't think he had a lot of creative control, I saw it in the theater as a kid, couldn't tell you more than a few scenes.

Jeepers Creepers had both an incestuous vibe (the brother and sister look and act more like lovers) and homoerotic one (The Creeper's obsession with the male lead).

r28 There was nothing sexual between them, Justin with that tattoo seemed clearly suspect. She played her role well as the no shit taking, but protective sister. The second, yeah, obviously no debate..

Justin Long was everywhere in the 2000s, then he just vanished... He showed dick though. Amanda Seyfried got a taste

I remember watching his first feature length film, Clownhouse, on HBO in the early 90s. It freaked me out and I liked it a lot. I recorded it when HBO replayed it later. It was Sam Rockwell's first movie and he had quite a screen presence even then as the smart assed oldest brother. I rewatched it several times throughout the 90s.

I didn't learn Salva had molested (repeatedly and even recorded it once) the lead boy in the movie until Jeepers Creepers came out. But, it retrospect a few scenes were a red flag. He showed the lead that he molested bare assed and in tight white underwear were his penis imprint could be seen through them. Needless to say, I could never enjoy the film again after learning that.

It's amazing they let him keep making films.

Rose ignoring what he did shows how nuts and full of shit she is.

Clownhouse is quite sleazy. I saw it on TV one night as a teenager and had no idea about Victor Salva but all I could think was that it was directed by a paedophile. Years later, I read about the controversy when Jeepers Creepers cam out, looked up his filmography and there it was in black and white.

Salva’s “Peaceful Warrior” has a lot of male eye candy too.

Sean Patrick Flanery from Powder was so good looking in Simply Irresistable with Sarah Michelle Gellar.

[quote] Justin Long was everywhere in the 2000s, then he just vanished... He showed dick though

Justin Long isn't very long.

Looks about average.

[quote] The Creeper's obsession with the male lead

Yeah, like sniffing his dirty clothes in the car.

And don't forget this doozy, where he cuts off the state trooper's head, and then makes out with it.

Okay, well he doesn't make out with it. He just tongues him.

And yes Victor Salva, don't think that I didn't notice you having the Creeper HUMP Darius from behind.

I see you, bitch.

He visited a set that I was working on (I have no idea why)- I don't remember the year, but it was after the allegations, perhaps before JC2. Very repulsive in person- pallid, fat, with a thick layer of white sunscreen on his face, sweating profusely. Super dark energy- everyone avoided him.

When will Powder get released in an open-matted version? I want to see Sean Patrick's dong.

Apparently there was a 4th film last year. I don’t think Salva was involved.

It’s a shame the Jeepers Creepers monster has to be associated with Salva’s controversy because the character is scary and could be a good franchise.

R42 - it says 2021, but articles state its release is sometime in 2022. I wonder if it’s one of those movies hung up by Covid, or hung up because it’s not that good.

I agree, R43.

I think both JC and JC2 were some of the scariest movies I've ever seen.

But Salva's association with both movies, really affects my appreciation for those movies.

I'll still watch them, though. Lol.

In fact, they are both showing on SyFy tonight.

The first deserves to be considered a classic, up there with The Hitcher.

One of the few road movie horrors that actually gets you in your creepy bone.

R33 I've never seen it, but my sister told me she saw Clownhouse at a slumber party when she was young and looked it up online years later because it stuck with her. She said that there are a lot of shots where the camera "lingers" on the boys in the movie and that the girls at the party commented on it.

I remember when Jeepers Creepers came out at the end of the summer of 2001, I thought it was odd that there was no hoopla over Salva directing the film. It became an unexpected hit. There was little promo aside from commercials but they definitely downplayed that Salva directed the film. And the fact that he was able to go on to do the sequel was another sign that United Artists didn't have any real concerns about involving Salva.

Which is odd because there was such outrage over Powder, but maybe that's because it was from Disney.

R32. I have read rumors that suggested that Salvo molested the other boy in "Clownhouse" also. Not Rockwell but the middle brother.

Not-so-fun fact: Prior to his filmmaking career, Salva worked in a daycare and wrote children's books.

He also cried "homophobia" and told people that he "had sex with a teenager," making it sound like it was a consensual relationship with someone just shy of legal age. Which is definitely not the case.

I saw JC (the original), JC2 and JC3. The first two movies were good. The third was terrible. Meg Foster looked like Death warmed over in it.

[quote]I saw JC (the original), JC2 and JC3. The first two movies were good. The third was terrible. Meg Foster looked like Death warmed over in it.

I'd really like to know whether Foster is bitter about been replaced on Cagney and Lacey.

If not, it doesn't matter what she looks like- she's a trooper in my book.

Meg used to be so stunning. So much facial wasting. Michelle Gomez is pretty much her twin.

R47 When I saw it, I was watching it with my friend and even she noticed how weird it was. Years later when I heard about Salva, I phoned her and said, "See!".

And it's not like Jeepers Creepers 2 where they have 25 year olds playing 16 - they're actually 12, they look 12, and they spend half the movie being terrorized in their underwear. It's surprising no-one from the studio noticed.

[quote] and they spend half the movie being terrorized in their underwear

Were they terrorized in a pool?

#51, I'm not saying you can stay young forever, but there's no excuse as an actress to let your looks go like that. She looks like a longterm homeless fentanyl addict in that photo. Sunscreen, moisturizer and a couple nips/tucks could have done wonders.

r56- It's really unusual facial wasting- like meth facial wasting- this is from 2012:

When I rented the first Jeepers Creepers at a Tower Records they didn’t open the CD case to check and I didn’t check it and just took it home. But at home we opened it and there was a hand-written note that said “enjoy this film directed convicted child rapist and pedophile Victor Salva!”

😬🫢😳

The people calling out McGowan's supposed hypocrisy are overlooking two things: 1) This guy is an absolute nobody compared to Weinstein. He had at most 1/1000th of Weinstein's power and influence. What made Weinstein's case so disgusting was the enormous power he had and how he used it for vile destructive things. 2) Salva didn't get away with shit. He was caught long ago and now everyone knows about it, completely different from Weinstein raping his way through Hollywood while everyone looked the other way.

The McGowan hate on this site is as psychotic as the trans hate

Jeepers Creepers was Justin Long's breakout role, and he was the perfect twink at the time.

He had a bangin' body, too.

I wonder if Miss Victor Salva had a taste of Justin Long?

People surprised by Meg Foster are idiots who have been mystified by our "forever young" image based culture.

That is what 70 y.o. women with her bone structure tend to look like, naturally.

Another example of Lindfors:

r63, it was 5 years between r57's photo and her face on JC- the difference is startling- do most people's face's deteriorate that quickly in 5 years?

Too much sun and cigarettes.

R65 biological aging is not a constant that varies at the same rate over time.

It is different for people even sharing genetics. It can speed up or slow down in periods of one's life.

Habits and health practices can have an effect. So can stress. So can pretty much everything that happens to a person in life.

I think they used makeup on Foster to make her look even more severe. She is very lined and wrinkled now, but the makeup to made it look much more pronounced.

If you want to see her look really scary, google image search her in the movie Lords of Salem.

This is all strategic on Meg’s part to ensure that all women’s roles for age 100 and up go to her first.

I'm prettier than her now!

Wasn’t she in They Live?

Justin Long still looks the same, but just a lot older.

I am very desensitized to gore and horror but I found the first two JC films to be quite effective.....creepy, scary and suspenseful...Salva has talent..it's a shame he is who he is.

Artists are all fucked up.

Or, nothing is unusual among artists except their artistic ability--humans in general are all fucked up and artists are no exception.

Let's talk about the husband...

[quote] The first deserves to be considered a classic, up there with The Hitcher. One of the few road movie horrors that actually gets you in your creepy bone.

I wanted to get Justin Long on my creepy bone.

Is Justin Long Native American?

The guy who plays the Creeper is kinda hot.

What is Mr. Salva up to these days?

The guy definitely has talent.

Jeepers Creepers was one of the most original horror movies when it first came out.

And it was really scary too.

I always thought Justin Long was part Chinese. Long can be a Chinese name. Long, Josh Hartnett, Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Brandon Routh all look Eurasian.

Maybe they have some Sami in their blood.

Cornelius Hawthorne : These are your friends, Pierce? Minorities, Jewesses, and the unseasonably tan?

Britta Perry : That is inappropriate, and maybe you'll give that more weight since I'm white.

Cornelius Hawthorne : You've got a wide brow. What are you? Scandinavian?

Britta Perry : Yeah, Swedish.

Cornelius Hawthorne: Swedish dogs! Your blood is tainted by generations of race mixing with Laplanders. You're basically Finns!

I watched Clownhouse yesterday. Its low budget is quite apparent but it does once again demonstrate that Salva is a talented filmmaker.

Salva served just 15 months of only a 3 year sentence. And not n prison, but a mental health treatment center. Frances "Victor was a kid himself" Coppola hired hm some crackerjack lawyers. Coppola told the victim, Nathan Forrest Winters, that he would never work in the industry again - and even tried to countersue the family. A real class act.

Salva and his lawyers used the standard "it was a one time touching incident with a consenting minor" when he went back to Hollywood. The people who worked with him either believed it or knew the real truth and didn't care.

Coppola also said that Salva going away for 15 months would make him a better filmmaker.

[quote]Apparently there was a 4th film last year. I don’t think Salva was involved.

It fuckin sucked and it was too straight for words.

Nathan Forrest winters was all over the internet giving interviews a few years ago. Kind of mum now. Hasn't even posted on SM in two years. Some might not agree with everything he says, but seems like the real deal and I admire that he hasn't turned into a right-wing grifting lunatic.

r87, I've always wondered why Coppola never gets mentioned when the debate about Salva gets brought up. Coppola and his production company were directly involved in Clownhouse and the first 2 Jeepers Creepers. At one time I assumed he was maybe just a silent partner or opted to give Salva a second chance after his imprisonment but then I read about him threatening Winters and suing the family to keep them quiet. Really scummy but he seems to get a pass.

Coppola has also defended Roman Polanski.

I hooked up with one of the JC franchise guys (as consenting adults lol).